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    Default Re: How long does it take to learn Finnish?

    • Finnish is the third hardest language in the world (and is the hardest that uses the extended Latin/Ugic alphabet) , [Although some people say Polish or Hungarian tie in at first with Finnish].
    • Is only half similar to ONE other language in the world. (Estonian)
    • Is only DISTANTLY related to one other language in the world. (Hungarian)
    • Finnish takes years to learn, has no prepositions, uses agglutinative context.
    • It modifies and inflects the forms of nouns, adjectives, pronouns, numerals and verbs, depending on their roles in the sentence.
    • Is part of the Ugric languages.
    • Doesn't really share ANY morphology at all with any other language.
    • Spoken by less than 1% of all, when compared to other world languages.
    • Finnish has a ton of dialects and differences that vary from town to town for gods sake.
    • Finnish is also Ostrobothnic as well.. which goes to show how difficult it is to grasp.

    some interesting points in this thread. To be honest, it's to easy to throw out excuses and yes, it is possible to learn Finnish in a year and if you think that you haven't learnt it until you sound like a native then you never will.

    To deal with some of the points above:
    First of all, it is impossible to rank languages by difficulty so...pointless.

    Finnish does have prepositions, for example ilman and ennen.it also has a lot of postpositions which only require a learner who speaks English to swap word positions e.g. pöydän alla pöydän vieressä are just under and next to the table respectively.

    Many languages inflect and agree adjectives and nouns etc. even English has inflection and used to have much more. Take the sentence: I bought him a cake. Him is modified he because it is an object and becomes his for genitive in the sentence: His cake is nice.

    Finnish shares plenty of morphology with other languages: koulu (school) ranta (strand) viikko (week) plus there are more and more loan words (the verb lainata - to lend or borrow - is one of these itself) coming into Finnish every day.

    Finally, all languages have dialects that vary from town to town.At least Finnish has a concept of standard Finnish in both written and spoken form which the learner can concentrate on, unlike English. So, while minä can be pronounced in many ways, mä is standard rather than mie, miiä, mää etc. Of course, the other pronunciations are perfectly good but a good interlocutor will modify their spoken Finnish towards standard puhekieli to help you (but they won't speak kirjakieli to you )

    Also, we' re all on the same side here so let's be nice. Hyvää päivänjatkoa kaikille!

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    Default Re: How long does it take to learn Finnish?

    I will simply reiterate by saying 'It is very easy for someone who is not a native to think that they can
    say every word without problems
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    That is the main point I am trying to make, and I believe that learning a language and
    saying every word without problems
    as Myrica mentioned takes over 2 years.

    Everyone is free to debate on this as much as they like, but in my humble personal opinion none of you will learn Finnish in a year. Lets see you even read Twilight in a year.

    You have learned Finnish when you can articulately recite something from the Kalevala for me and even understand it henceforth. I rest my case.


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    I think you have to get used to this language before you can really learn it. Before I moved to Finland I have never heared somebody speaking Finnish. It took me a while until I was able to get some words out of a sentence.
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    Default Re: How long does it take to learn Finnish?

    Quote Originally Posted by mikedowds View Post
    [LIST][*]Is only DISTANTLY related to one other language in the world. (Hungarian)
    Fact.
    My native language is Hungarian and it's not easier to learn than for anyone else, though i always get to hear 'for you is easy because you know Hungarian.' there are only a few words that are similar or almost the same, but concerning the grammar very few things are similar.

    For me it's the 5th year i'm learning it, but actually i don't really count the first 3 since i have been learning it alone from books and internet (with about 2 hours a week); and count just 2 year that i did at the university (6 hours a week).
    But after all i think everything depends on the book you're using, the teacher you have and most important on you: how much devotion you have and motivation you have for learning the language. If you have 0 motivation or just very few than you can learn it for centuries, nothing will remain. But on the other hand if you know you want it and need it then you make all possible to learn it faster.
    It's not only a matter of how hard a language is.

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    Hungarian is related to Finnish via use of agglutination, of which most Hungarians don't even know what that is. But why would you learn the name of something that you learn since birth? Far as I know, Hungarian and Finnish share agglutination which is the only thing that 'relates them' as other languages in the world don't use it. Turkey does as well though but Finns don't like to admit that their language shares same contexts as Turkish and neither would I.


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    the relation between turkish and finnish is just grammar and pronounciation wise.
    and its not *middle eastern* language as you might think,we have lots of words from english,french,etc.Its just a combination of many languages.
    Also turkish have connections with korean also,a korean told me that anyway,i didnt know it before:P

    There are some theories that finnish and turkish people lived together for some time-LONG TIME AGO- probably last times of roman empire,and thats why language is *little* similar.But those theories have never proven.I heard that theory from a half fin-half mongolian professor from Helsinki Uni. first time.

    Im just telling facts that its easy for us to pronounce finnish words.Any other relation other than that,i dont know.

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    Default Re: How long does it take to learn Finnish?

    That sounds about right to me if you believe in the Tower of Babel then anything is possible. But it's apparent that languages that share the same similarities could definitely have lived hand in hand many years ago. In the end, although some languages share small similarities with Finnish etc., just about every language on the planet, even Latin-English are very different from one another.


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