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Old 10th-August-2008   #11
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It is hard to imagine, that in the 21th century, in a civilized world, there still live such silly and stupid people, they believe, that a war will bring something useful to their country, their economics... Are there any more civilized ways to solve problems??? The politicians, they start a war, should go to a jail - like every killer does!

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Well these big countries have to sell there weapons somewhere and for that reason there must be war goin on somewhere..weapons, fighter planes helicopters nuclear weapons.There is this movie also Lord of wars i think with Nicolas cage.its like marketing agent selling weapons in the whole world. And i am very sure that was quite true wat they showed..
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Well this is really sad wats happening in Georgia. But georgia military have been killing innocent people in South ossetia. and there had been continous warnings from russian side.And only russia had been caring about the people being killed in South Ossetia.

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Well these big countries have to sell there weapons somewhere and for that reason there must be war goin on somewhere..weapons, fighter planes helicopters nuclear weapons.There is this movie also Lord of wars i think with Nicolas cage.its like marketing agent selling weapons in the whole world. And i am very sure that was quite true wat they showed..
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Well this is really sad wats happening in Georgia. But georgia military have been killing innocent people in South ossetia. and there had been continous warnings from russian side.And only russia had been caring about the people being killed in South Ossetia.
Yes, I saw that movie too Ali, and seems so real that is scary, I agree with you!
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yeah Vesania its so bad
georgia was in iran till' 200 years ago (maybe less) & in a war *persia with russia* it became a part of it & then it became republic of Georgia.
but in some parts specially in south ossetia they still speak Farsi georgia is a beautiful country & i think its a big shame..russia is very huge country & just want south ossetia for oil...
I'm sorry i didnt want to VITUPERATION...because i think russian people are not like their government,as one of my besties.we have same problem here...
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...wars bring a lot of pain and damage... And the worst thing - it brings all that to the people, they even do not want to fight...

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yeah Vesania its so bad
georgia was in iran till' 200 years ago (maybe less) & in a war *persia with russia* it became a part of it & then it became republic of Georgia.
but in some parts specially in south ossetia they still speak Farsi georgia is a beautiful country & i think its a big shame..russia is very huge country & ..

hey lovely lil Maniya
Talking about country just like a peace of cake that Gorgia was belong to Iran or this country belong to other its something so old and just the maniac ppl think of it ,cause if we agreed about what u said and country should go back their real belonging so I think u know that south west of Iran was belong to Iraq and stioll all ppl their r Arabic but its because the british ppl whom they gave this part to the Shah cause he was licking thier ass while the war against german .
and that georgia ia a country by it self but during the perisian empire it become with them so if u wanna talk about these things u should be careful cause Iran will lostt alot and the whole world will be like shit .
cause that mean Cariala should go back to Finland again and that mean real war with Russian who they where occuping most of the countries in Asia .
any way dont consider my reply as an offending one but just I am talking about things that I know and practise .
cause Iraq was trying to get Kuwait back cause it was belong to Iraq till the British Army take it and make it as a seperate country so Saddam try to get it back by force and what cause lots of death and craziness in middle east .
so be away from war guyz and again dont talk about ppl and countries like Old british kingdome .
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yeah T-bag i know but west south of iran wasnt for iraq i'm sure!iran is a country with people who have Kurd,Turk,Fars &.. roots & the people u say they are arab are the imgrants.but bahrain was for arabs & now its for them.
& I didnt say that georgia should come back & belong to Iran,I just meant georgia became "Republic of Georgia" & should stay republic of georgia forever,because the people want.I'm NOT that skinny head Aryan girl & say: Persian Empire forever & it persia should become the old one a country from west China to east europe...yeah Iknow the gov & I know if iran become a bigger country just become hell ...I'm not a muslem & dont know WTH they are doing now with name of islam specially with iran & so on...its not fair

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All of Russias neighbours (including Finland) are surely now speeding up their applications to join NATO.
Joining NATO is the last thing we'll do if our **** politics just lets people decide. Finland belongs to Finns, this is our home, the most important and the last thing we'll do is to give it on a silver platter to others to take and steal our own right to decide.
NATO ain't any better than Russia or Soviet Union.
Ofcourse this is only my opinion and I know my view is quite harsh, but that's just what I and most of the people I know thinks.
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^ NATO is surely something completely different from Soviet Union, so that comparison is a bit too over-reacted I think. Of course there are downsides and good sides but that's with everything, right? There can't be one thing entirely good or entirely bad.
I'm not saying that Finland joining NATO would be a good idea (also not saying the opposite) but as a person who's coming from a country that has been part of Soviet Union I can say that NATO is far from being something similar. I know I was maybe a bit too young during Soviet Union days to say it but my opinion is based on what I've been taught by my teachers in school and my parents (also grand-parents) who have lived in Soviet Union.
I don't know much about Finland's and NATO's relationships and people's feelings on it, so I'm not going to have an opinion about it before I've learned a bit more of it. But I think joining NATO was a right thing to do in Estonia. Such a small country isn't able to protect itself alone from such a big country like Russia. Maybe my opinion is a bit influenced on our country's history but if there's any danger to my country in the world then that danger comes from Russia.
Estonian people value their free country a lot (surely as much as Finns value their independence)and there were huge debates about joining NATO and there was the same argument brought up like you did by some of our politicians but somehow I don't agree with it. Estonia has been member of NATO for a while and I don't think people have felt for a second that we're back in Soviet Union time or something like that. People don't even really notice it in their every day life.
I definitely don't find all these wars right. But until there won't be more understanding and respect in the world there will be wars about really stupid things.
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