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    Default Re: More Finnish-born Kids Speak no Finnish or Swedish

    I think that sometime misinformation also creates lots of excitment and this is the case here. I think that the basic criterion of getting Finnish citizenship is that the person should know Finnish. The how is it possible that a Finnish citizen can not know Finnish and if the parents know Finnish, then the kid gets the same.

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    Lightbulb Re: More Finnish-born Kids Speak no Finnish or Swedish

    Quote Originally Posted by reea View Post
    It's quite alarming to know about this, and well, if I go to a country to live there, I ALWAYS try to learn the language. I am quite a language nerd, I have a skill that allows me to learn them maybe more easily than other people, but it's unacceptable that you gain finnish citizenship cause of your refugee status, and never learn the official language of your host country.

    people who postulate for finnish citizenship needs to have at least intermediate skills of finnish or swedish. so why give those citizenship to refugees?

    I get also really annoyed when immigrants come here and don't want to learn french. we already feel quite assimilated with english surrounding us, that sometimes we feel like we get the immigrants to suppress the french language. which is happening, in the Montreal area.

    And from what I've learn in some linguistic and anthropology classes, the humans have the capacity to learn any languages, but it absolutely must be in a social context to be able to learn and master a language. the younger you are in contact with any languages, the easier it will be for you to learn the language. Kids learns from hearing the language. They analyse the sounds, the morphemes and phonemes, to distinguish the limits between words, analyse word functions in the sentence, and try to apply it in concrete examples. So it's not rare a kid makes mistakes with verb conjugation, cause it can distinguish the verbs and compare it to other verbs endings, to generalise the whole grammar rule. Then the kid will apply that rule to any verb, even though not all verb ends in the same way. That's why they need a social contact with language. Then people can correct their mistakes, and they'll try again to find the logic to the rule.

    So, it's quite weird adults don't want their kid to be in touch with the local language, cause if they can't speak finnish, they can't go to school, and if you don't go to school, you have no job, no money, no way to survive much.
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    its the linguistic society that is failing the immigrants children ,surely this was going to be an obvious problem from the beginning when for example Mr. & Mrs. from Hong kong opened their restauranrt /business ,the children would not be in that situation had the society acted earlir to befriend and assist the parents to assimulate. get these churches churching inclusiveness BEFORE the children are born. Thats the only way a community works.

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    Default Re: More Finnish-born Kids Speak no Finnish or Swedish

    It's actually quite insane that people can get citizenship without speaking the language, but it is all the more common in European countries. In the UK, even where I live, there are people who don't speak English or very little, and I wonder how they get by. If and when I move over/have kids in Finland, I'd ensure they learn not only English, but Finnish and a little Swedish....It's part of the culture, you live there, you learn the language.

    Or am I old-fashioned thinking that way?

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    Default Re: More Finnish-born Kids Speak no Finnish or Swedish

    Quote Originally Posted by elfen10 View Post
    It's actually quite insane that people can get citizenship without speaking the language, but it is all the more common in European countries. In the UK, even where I live, there are people who don't speak English or very little, and I wonder how they get by. If and when I move over/have kids in Finland, I'd ensure they learn not only English, but Finnish and a little Swedish....It's part of the culture, you live there, you learn the language.

    Or am I old-fashioned thinking that way?
    I dont believe you are old fashioned in thinking that way. I speak english,finnish,swedish and some russian. My daughter will also learn those languages when she is growing up, first finnish and english and then the other 2.


    I know in southampton alot of them can only speak polish cant they
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    Default Re: More Finnish-born Kids Speak no Finnish or Swedish

    Yeah Kari, especially where I am. The shops are either run by Urdus/Sikhs/Muslims (not sure how to describe them) and Polish people. I must say though, they do have better manners than most of the English (say hello when you go into the shop, have a little natter/...it's the little things)

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    Default Re: More Finnish-born Kids Speak no Finnish or Swedish

    Yeh alot of them are better then english people in being polite.

    In barnstaple (where iam from) we have a very low level of people from abroad living here.
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